Disabled access at Barry's train stations

 

I take my bike in to Cardiff on the train every day so I can cycle from the station to the University. When I arrive back at Barry station I always let people walk up the stairs in front of me because I don't want to hit them with my bike. I have been shocked as I am not the only one to stay behind, often there are elderly, disabled and people with prams who wait for the crowd to leave before struggling up the stairs. It's sad to see on so many occasions the elderly struggling to get up the steep stairs, or people struggling with prams, and sometimes wheelchair users. There is no access for the disabled, elderly or people with prams, and I believe that everyone should have the right to use the train without struggling. There is not always someone about to help so, my idea is to make all the train stations in Barry accessible for everyone creating a ramp or a lift. A lot of people need to use the public transport, but the stations at Barry make it hard for them to do so. Everyone has the right to use the train.

Brian Jan 8, 2015

Totally agree Lea, do you have any suggestions how the station can improve this service though?

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Lea Phillips Jan 8, 2015

An underground system like the one at cadoxton or Barry docks where rather than stairs it's a sort of pathway that goes underneath instead of a bridge over the tracks?, a lift that takes them up the stairs?, or a flat crossing across the tracks like a sort of railroad crossing but just for people. They need to do something about it, my ideas aren't great but surely there is a solution?

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Barry Ideas Bank Jan 12, 2015

Some interesting points about problems faced by passengers at Barry station.

Some people negotiate the problem by staying on the train on its way to Barry Island and then get off on the platform on the exit side of Barry station - but this then adds 10-15 minutes to their journey - and of course is not an option if it is a Bridgend bound train.

Given that the station has recently benefited from investment in a new platform it would be interesting to find out from Arrivatrains Wales why wasn't the opportunity taken to improve access for the disabled and people with prams or bikes.

Are there any plans for further investment at the station and what is the criteria for justifying improved access facilities?

What do people think about access facilities at Barry station?

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Paul Haley Jan 13, 2015

I was on Barry Station and overheard a disabled person being told to take the train to Barry Dock station in order to cross over the track to return back to Barry Island. It seems very odd that Barry Station has just undergone redevelopment of a new platform, and yet does not have disabled access. I suspect that there are exemptions from DDA in the Railways Act, but have not researched this.

The development of bridges in Barry are frought with difficulties eg Gladstone Road Bridge, & Thompson Street footbridge. This is because you need special wayleave access over a rail line from Network Rail. Also, land ownership near the rail line in Barry can be via a mixture of Plymouth & Romilly Estates.

Slightly different with Barry Island footbridge as this was existing and hence was a repair, and paid for by Vale and WG.

With Barry Station, there is no bridge into the Waterfront where there will be lots of homes.This would require an enormous bridge to take into account the large height difference from Station into Waterfront to enable a gradual slope for a wheelchair. This would then no doubt involve ABP and Welsh Govt. I reckon it would take between 5 to 8 years to negotiate and get this built, given past experience with the other 2 bridges mentioned. That's without even looking at funding, as this is not Network Rail's problem - they don't pay for bridges.

Saying that, I have not heard anything mooted at all.

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Lea Phillips Jan 13, 2015

They should plan to do something to resolve this problem, even if it does take a lot of time and money.

 

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Lee Waters Jan 13, 2015

As I understand it Network Rail have an exemption from the Disability Discrimination Act (outragously) for a set period.  There is an opprtunity to replace the bridge when the work takes place to electrify the line. Again, as I understand it, to put in the cables for powering the new line bridges will have to be heightened. However, I don't thinik the current budget includes Network Rail paying for a new bridge at Barry, but they've told WG they can pay for the bridge to be done when the work is carried out - which is a  bit of a cheek.

Nontheless I'd support a campaign for a new bridge

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Lea Phillips Jan 13, 2015

That is outrageous! Hopefully in the future something will be sorted.

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Barry Ideas Bank Jan 13, 2015

Thanks Paul and Lee for sharing your knowledge.

Hope ArrivaTrainsWales or Network Rail could provide further info on the situation and any prospects of further work and investment

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Barry Ideas Bank Jan 13, 2015

ArrivaTrains apparently does not reply to posts on forums - seems a pity as they're missing out on a chance for rich, valuable dialogue with their community. As suggested by them, below are their Tweets on this subject in response to ours:

@BarryIdeasbank some stations are not fully accessible but we highlight the degree of accessibility at every station on our network 1/3

@BarryIdeasbank we're committed to improving the quality of our stations and work closely with Network Rail, WG, DfT to achieve this 2/3

@BarryIdeasbank please see our Making Rail Accessible: Guide to Policies and Practices arrivatrainswales.co.uk/AssistedTravel/ ^zac 3/3

@BarryIdeasbank unfortunately not, but feel free to post and direct your readers to the link we gave you on the topic ^zac

@BarryIdeasbank it's not that, we don't comment on forums but feel free to post the links and/ or our contact details on your site ^zac

@BarryIdeasbank we'd encourage people to get in touch if they have concerns & we'll reply but don't monitor forums for replies to posts etc.

Anyone have any responses to their position?

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Lea Phillips Jan 13, 2015

Should I get in touch with Arriva about this?

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Brian Jan 13, 2015

Before seeing your last post Andy I was already going through the Network Rail DDA document. There is a part on page 17 that may be relevant,link is here which mirrors arriva trains link you posted http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/AssistedTravel/. I have not seen any exclusions in it as mentioned before, may be a campaign point for somebody.

If arriva wont comment would disabled users like to pass comment of their own?

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Lea Phillips Jan 13, 2015

thanks all for taking my idea seriously 

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