Whitmore Bay & Knap Summer Dog Bans

Firstly, I should acknowledge I have an interest in the subject. I've got a 7 year old King Charles Cavalier Spaniel called Alfie. I've attached a picture of him sitting in Marco's Cafe so you can see just how cute he is :-)

My wife, Julie and I walked Alfie on a cold, but bright Whitmore Bay this afternoon, and the beach, promenade, new Shelter complex etc., were packed with dogs, and their walkers. As packed were the chippys & coffee shops.

Given that blue flag status is now seemingly beyond our reach, are we missing a trick by banning dog owners from our 2 main beaches, and turning away their custom from coffee shops etc. from May to September?

Apart from the odd scorcher I've rarely seen the beach so busy. Incidentally, when it is busy with the sun-seekers, I'd hesitantly suggest that it is also much, much dirtier, with litter a massive problem. I rarely come across dog poo on the beach, but am willing to be told otherwise.

I'm sure this subject must have been done to death a few times over, but if we can't get the Blue Flag is it a debate worth revisiting, mainly from an economic perspective?

Cheers,

Mark & Alfie

 

 

Paul Haley Jan 3, 2015

An obvious solution is to keep the dog beach ban in Summer on Whitmore Bay as the prime visitor beach, but to designate Old Harbour for dogs able to run on the beach. The Old Harbour extends out past the red light breakwater by quite some distance and is very expansive, and yet does not attract such a large use by visitors as a swimming and paddling beach. That could be a compromise solution thereby enabling dogs a good run, and still enable a walk onwards to Marco's Cafe and other Cafes. Just an idea...

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Mark Hooper Jan 3, 2015

Cheers Paul,

I thought dogs were always allowed on the Old Harbour beach?

 

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Julia Stringer Jan 3, 2015

Firstly Mark yes your Alfie is very cute and adorable :-)  I am a dog owner and lover and don't think that the ban should be lifted during the summer to allow Dogs on Barry Island beach as I know of people, friends and family who are wary and frightened of dogs.  I think by allowing them on the beach all year you would put off the families who visit the beach with their children.  I honestly think that it would be a good idea to ban them from all beaches at all times apart from as Paul suggests on the Old Harbour.  That could be a beach just for dogs.  Then people would be happy in the knowlege that they aren't going to be jumped on by a dog and dogs could run free on the old harbour.  I know we love dogs but not everybody does and I think we need to acknowledge that. I appreciate that there are so many sensible dog ownerrs out there but there are some that let us down and don't keep an eye on what their dogs are up to.  My friends children have been put off dogs as a dog jumped over to them and jumped up and the owner didn't even apologise.  People like that get dog owners a bad name.  I believe that wherever people walk their dogs they should be responsible for what they do and for picking up the dog mess.  It make's me so mad that there are so many owners out there who think it's ok to just let their dog do it's business and just leave it. Disgusting!!

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Mark Hooper Jan 3, 2015

Thanks Julia (& from Alfie, too)

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Owen Williams May 3, 2016

To clarify, Barry beaches on which dogs are permitted year round are as follows:
• Porthkerry
• The Old Harbour
• Jackson's Bay

I've put a graphic together which can be found at the link below…
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154027455996327&set=a.67018946326.103215.556001326

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SueP May 10, 2016

We walk our black labrador on the lovely Whitmore Bay in all weathers and wouldn't dream of leaving our dog's deposits there. We've watched other owners and even walked after them to give a bag, to make the point. I agree that in the height of summer children should be able to run around freely and eat their ice creams without risk of an excited dog spoiling it for them. However, our summers are often all too brief and unpredictable. The beaches aren't thronged from 1st May till end of September and it would be so much nicer for all if there was a more balanced approach to the ban.

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SueP May 10, 2016

...oops returned and posted too soon.

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SueP May 10, 2016

How about a curfew so that dogs are allowed on the beach after 7pm during that period? It's usually quiet and when the weather is inclement at least the cafes are earning from the dog walkers. The beach is often at its busiest once the ban is lifted.

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Andy Green May 20, 2016

Speaking as a former dog owner there are fundamentals that not everyone likes dogs and unfortunately, there are irresponsible owners who give everyone else - and their dogs - a bad name.
This has been a very useful discussion on the IdeasBank and I think what has emerged is a lack of a pro-active marketing of Barry Island to dog owners and managing the dog walkers dimension to the resort.

This could include signage to show where dog owners can use the Old Harbour and Jackson Bay beaches all year round, and promotional campaigns to attract dog walkers to Barry Island all year round.

While I sympathise that the idea of a curfew would allow responsible dog owners use of Whitmore Bay at restricted times, we need clear-cut, unambiguous, non-negotiable messages to the irresponsible dog owners, who would exploit the flexible usage of Whitmore Bay.

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